Some of these fellows will show truth (true moon, true time). They can be perfect for your timezone, exactly accurate. The last one is a really cool simulation (or can be). We can make it mega size to really impress.


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But this one can not show original settings; only what was. We can paint it with a different color, though. But there is something settling about not moving forward. However, If you look at the blinking long enough, you start believing.

What kind of Church might be important to you in these latter days.

Why is there the expression, "snake in the grass"? Is it the fact that the real criminals, the real ones who are down and dirty prefer to do it under the cover of darkness, avoiding the light of day?

Is there nobody with a reasoned argument concerning my previous scriptures and my conclusions? And if there is nobody, what does that say about your doctrines on this subject? And what does it say about you, hiding as you do?

I am not a Johnny come lately. I got big numbers from those who contended and either converted or failed. Those who have learned have moved on. Those who have failed and are hardened would seem to have limped back to the grass, their home.

There are the few who come here who want to whine about how hard I am. Well, find a church that has the correct doctrines and you can stop feeling so put upon when you find the truth in the doctrines published at the Genuine Article.

Its not like I create them. Its not like they have any original flavor though me. It's not about me. Besides, I know I write horribly. Its about God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost.

Please do not reply to this Topic. As always you will have ample opportunity to comment on subsequent doctrinal Topics. All replies here will be deleted.

Conventional wisdom within the Orthodox Protestant mind(s) has the saved inhabiting the earth after the great burning. Earth is to be our Heaven being changed. The particulars of how we got here are not important to this topic. But it is at this point that the LDS and the Protestants part company.

The few things of this new world that are believed by the Protestant is that the bodies of the saved will not have any sexual organs or, as some Protestants would put it, in our complete joy we will have no purpose for having them. Nevertheless, in God's infinite wisdom he will destroy our reproductive systems while at the same time regenerate the rest of our bodies to complete physical perfection. Of course this is a product of the confused Protestant mind based upon........you guessed it if you are LDS.........corrupted scripture. As single misplaced word created this fiasco.

There has been a much to do about this castrated world in the "Dummies" blog concerning angels. I now introduce here what Isaiah had to say about all of it. And I give you the hebrew word accounting for the error. It is remarkably two verses long.

To set the stage Isaiah has already prophesied that Edom (the world) is to be burned. Visions of burning pitch fill the land and the wicked have been destroyed.

THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LORD RECEIVE THE LAND (34:16-17)

Summary

The land of the wicked has been made desolate and assigned to chaos by means of the Lord's "line" and "plummet." The Lord will also use these devices to assign the glorified earth to the righteous, whose names are recorded in the book of the Lord (34: 17; see also D&C 103:7). These will have an eternal inheritance with the Lord (34: 16); thus, they will always remain with their spouses and have an eternal increase. Also see D&C 132:30-31).

Isaiah 34: 16-17

Seek ye out of the book of the Lord, and read [the names written therein]: No one of these shall fail, none shall [lack]1 their mate: And l have cast the lot for them, and l have divided it unto them by line: They shall possess it for ever, from generation to generation [they shall] dwell therein.

NOTES AND COMMENTARY

34:16 book of the Lord.

During the day of the Lord, those whose names are found in the book of the Lord will be delivered from the "time of trouble" (Dan.12: 1), and they will inherit the celestial city (Rev. 21 :22-27). This book of the Lord may be the "book of life" identified more than a dozen times in the scriptures (Dan.12:1; Rev. 3:5; 20:12; D&C 76:68; 128:7).

None shall lack their mate.

Those whose names are written in the book will have their spouses through eternity. This is a rare Old Testament reference to eternal marriage. Note the parallel in 34: 15, in which Isaiah states that those saved on Earth would have their mates after the destruction of Edom - meaning, they would propagate their species at least for a few generations. Here, Isaiah promises that after the destruction of the world, those whose names are written in the book of the Lord will also have their mates.

my spirit. . . gathered them. This passage speaks of the role of the Holy Ghost in gathering individuals to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

34:17 cast the lot. Those in the Lamb's book are chosen as the Lord's servants.

divided. . . by line. By a godly decree the land once known as Edom is surveyed and apportioned to those whose names are in the Lord's book (Rev. 21:27). The earth, once a tellestial world inhabited by telestial beings will become a celestial world inhabited by celestial beings. And the righteous shall inhabit the earth eternally

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1. From the Hebrew n'drh, from the root 'dr, meaning to "be lacking." Brown, Driver, and Briggs, Hebrew and the English Lexicon, 727.

It was raining out there but not here. Really something isn't this place?

These are very intelligent questions. So I'm staying up late to answer them. I answer each question as economically as possible. None of these answers can be complete. It is my view on LDS doctrine.

"You ask why we can't be Gods, but we can be gods?"

God, in the Godhead of three beings, is most exactly "God the Father". He is the God of us all. He is the supreme creator. While on Earth Jesus was subordinant to Him and did as God the Father required. However, now Jesus Christ is God with Him. Both are of the same mind and purpose. As a Godhead with the Holy Ghost they are unequaled by any other exalted being(s) that will be coming along. All light sources from them. When we are resurrected as a result of the grace provided by Christ, we go to them body and spirit. If conditions are right for us in terms of personal righteousness, we eventually, through the eternities there, become exalted but we can never be a God as Christ (Christ is the literal only begotten son of God the Father). We are spirit children of God the Father but are fully mortal, having sinned on this Earth. Christ never sinned. That is why.

Immortally we cannot become a perfect being as a God. Yet as spirit children created in the beginning by God the Father, we accomplished much because you and I have bodies...we got here. In the Spirit World walking with God and other mighty spirits we learned. That was called our first estate. We are here with bodies because we merited the challenge of coming to Earth where we agreed to be tried and challenged by mortal life. As mortal we are now in the second estate. The question is will be pass the second estate and return to our Father.

"What is exactly your definition of a god?"

A god is an exalted being formerly mortal. The Archangel Michael may be most prominently and closest to becoming a god. It is my view angels like Michael, as great as we know him to be, may be far from becoming a god. So much of the particulars have simply not been revealed. I personally do not feel it is important to my progress to know this any better than I do. But know this, in some way, gods rule worlds they have created. OR perhaps mortals have not become so exalted as have merited that YET.

"You indeed claim Christ to be the savior, exactly what are we being saved from if we can somehow immortally and magically become perfect?"

We are already eternal. But will we experience eternity in damnation or salvation? There is nothing magical about becoming perfect. To become perfect we must actually live as Christ did. None of us are doing that. None of what I have described is possible without Jesus Christ and His atonement. There are three events that are interconnected and must be considered: 1. The Creation, 2. The Fall, 3. The Atonement. Without the creation there would be no fall; without the fall there would be no atonement. Without the atonement there can be no exaltation of mortals who have sinned and have fallen short of the glory of God. The best Bible story I know of a man on the path to perfection in this world is JOB. He went through great pain and didn't flinch. Nothing magical.

"Is it different when we die? Is it easier to be perfect?"

It will be different when we die. It will be more difficult to become perfect. This is because mortality is the place for the test. We carry with us the knowledge we have gained into the eternities. But we also carry the baggage. We have opportunities here that we must accomplish or we will be blocked after death. In some cases Absolutely blocked. Number one is accepting the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ and authentically living the laws He requires. If given the opportunity to learn certain things we turn our back on it, we put everything at risk.

"What is the deal with the baptism of the dead? So if I die, not being baptised, one of my living buddies could Tag me out of damnation simply by baptising me?"

The short of it is yes.
But the ugly twist is that you will need to be in the position after death to ACCEPT the work that has been done for you. As I understand it, if you had an opportunity here and you were not decieved, the path is very tough after death. And let me tell you, being baptised is only the gateway. Being married to your spouse for time and all eternity and to be sealed to your family with children as well....now that is an unspeakable blessing. What I am saying though, in round 2 you will probably fail if you failed here.

The world would have you believe you can always take the easy path and jump the low hurdles. Don't believe it one minute. That wasn't what Christ said. You can read about what God did to those kind of people in the Old Testament. With Jesus' atonement, God hasn't suddenly become soft on crime.

Now we should hear the grinding of teeth as the mainland wakes up and visits what I have written.