Myspace LayoutsMyth #5: God has been destroying the spirits of all animals yet has been preserving the souls of all men because He is "Good" and is a "Good Governor".
Thomisticguy, while telling the reader that God has no need for us, on December 14th wrote God "is neither mean, cruel, nor nasty. He made us with out eternal souls out of the goodness of his heart, and now He is preserving the souls of all men. Yet an earlier post (December 2) this same God is apparently destroying the spirits of every other thing in His creation, in violation of His goodness. This is mind boggling given Thomasticguy later conceded that all animals have spirits.
Thomas provides the Protestant way of thinking saying "God is not only good in Himself, but He is the cause of goodness in others. This is why He has created the universe." It would seem the only ones God is good to are humans.
At the end of his post, Thomisticguy reminds us "The Bible forbids cruelty to animals". That is God forbids us to be cruel to animals. Are we to believe we are to do what He says and not regard what He does?
The LDS teach that this doctrine is blindness and has come to be out of man's arrogance for himself. The tradition of men can not abide the thought that God created eternal spirits for each and every living thing He created (not just man). That He being "Good" will not destroy the spirit of a single sparrow.
Take care my brother in the gospel. Beth.
You wrote: “This is mind boggling given Thomasticguy later conceded that all animals have spirits.”
●As you well know, my position is that plants and animals have souls. The plant soul is a nutritive soul and the animal soul is a sensitive soul. Soul simply means live force. Humans have rational souls. It is the nature of rational souls that they can do things that are beyond their material nature and therefore are immortal by nature. Neither plants nor animals have immortal souls by nature.
●The LDS belief that rocks, trees, elements, animals and insects all have “spirits” is animistic and no different than what primitive tribes believe in the deepest recesses of the Amazon Jungle.
●Again, you disingenuously present my position by cutting and pasting my comments out of context. Reader, please be aware of this corrupt habit.
You wrote: “Thomas provides the Protestant way of thinking saying "God is not only good in Himself, but He is the cause of goodness in others. This is why He has created the universe." It would seem the only ones God is good to are humans.”
●First, I take it you believe that Protestant’s are wrong to believe that God is good and shares His goodness with creation. This says a lot about your belief-system.
●God shares His goodness with all creation by giving it existence (i.e. including stars, planets, rocks and trees—all of which are “inanimate”). Men and angels are created by God but are given the goodness of immortality within their very natures. Why? Well, it is a greater display of God’s goodness for there to be a vast variety of things in the universe then for there to be just one type of thing. This is why there are animate and inanimate things and those things with out will, those things with instinct and those things with free will. The LDS belief is that there is only one kind of thing in the creation—spirits which are immortal whether animate or inanimate. This is spiritism or an animistic belief which is a primitive form of sympathetic magic in which the world is “alive” with spirits. Just so the reader is aware, Muslims, Jews and Christians have rejected this view of the world for millennia.
God is not Good if He is willfully destroying the souls/spirits of every living creature other than human in all of his creation.
If the souls/spirits of animals are not eternal, that would be the way God requires it. It would not be happening by someone else. However, God is not capable of such evil as defined by you. It is one thing for God to permit evil in the world; it is another for God to be the source of it.
You bring contradiction to the Goodness of God.