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 Myth #9: Orthodox Protestants are Moral Realists; the LDS are Moral Relativists
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Myth #9 Orthodox Protestants are moral realists. They hold to objective values, where the LDS are moral relativists.


Protestant Christians, as typified by Blogstream bloggers at “Dummies”, speak boldly in favor of objective values but are moral relativists in defining their Christian institutions and subsequently in their personal obligations as members.


Realists believe that there are objective, irreducible moral properties which are nonnegotiable and should be considered factual claims when applied to their Christian organizations. As factual claims, they can only be true or false. Their truth or falsity does not depend on one’s belief, feelings, or other attitudes towards the things that are evaluated.


The slide to moral relativism is to the extent where the moral rightness of a property must be approved of by society. The need for societal approval leads to the conclusion that different values are right for folks in different societies.


It is a matter of record that all Protestant Christian denominations statements of faith vary substantially from one culture to another within a denomination. And, in some cases, from one church to another within the same denomination within the same culture.

Thoughout the scriptures there has been an age old pattern that God set in place and He has sustained. Doctrine, as the Lord provides it, has always come by revelation through a Prophet. In every case this has been true as there has been but one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and one God and father of us all.


Having the religious order as was originally prescribed by God and having objective, irreducible moral properties identical among all people, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (LDS) are moral realists.


Posted by Stealth at 1:55 AM - 5 Comments   Add a Comment  
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Stealth, you were busy today. Maybe this would have had better support if you didn't make two posts and instead hunted down some evidence of your claims instead of syaing "it is a matter of record" to make it sould like proof.

Anywho, I've already established that, dispite the claims to the contrary, that there are still relative truths from one person and one region to another. Good luck with your denials on that.
 
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by PuriChristos (PM , CC ) on Thursday September 14, 2006 @ 7:04 PM




Puricristos, in this dispensation there are relative truths. However For God the Father there is only one thruth no relative truths. God the Father disciminates that truth through the Holy Ghost.

God also allowed us to become the most advanced society (hah ) on the earth, because we think we are.

I once had a teacher of history who said that at the time of Socrates that we could all there was learnable. Maybe all that was written in that area, but the entire world was not known to these people and it was sheer arrogance of her to say that we could possibly have at one point in time on this earth have known everything about this earth.

Even with all of our advances we can not accurately time the earth and must add a day and some minutes here and there to keep us on a timed 24 hour day, yet the Sumarians knew how to time one full revolution of the earth around the sun and one full revolution of a day.

So evenwith all of our self bloviating and puffing of our chest we still know less than an extinct group of people who we know even less of than most people do their bibles.

Beth.
 
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by BethAnne (PM , CC ) on Thursday September 14, 2006 @ 7:40 PM




Beth,

I'm just wondering what that has to do with the topic. How does it prove or disprove Stealth's claims of relativistic foul? The only thing I caught is that you say relativism is fair in this dispensation.
 
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by PuriChristos (PM , CC ) on Thursday September 14, 2006 @ 8:37 PM




Puri: My post speaks to the approved manner under which truth is dispensed and received. Further, the Lord does not dispense truths that are differentiated by culture or politic or people at a given moment.

Protestants certainly think otherwise, even to the point of contradiction. This is what she stated much more concisely in her first paragraph. Let's see, should we sprinkle her or immerse her or should we not do anything because she is sinless as an infant. Or further is baptism a sacrament or not. I think you and Thom would disagree on that.

But that's ok you say because there are some areas where it isn't important, right?
Your God has a queer mind to accept all these as acceptable to Him.

Puri, as for my two posts in a single day, I just suggest that you try to keep up. I don't write to get replies. I write to get read.


 
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by Stealtharachnid (PM , CC ) on Thursday September 14, 2006 @ 11:02 PM




Stealth,

Still waiting on evidence of your claims. You seem to indicate that there is no deviating in the LDS church, but there are already 100 variants claiming t be LDS of some kind or another each with little differences in how truth is dispense. Even within the LDS which you belong to, I have shown that certain truths change from person to person, and therefor are taught differently causing small differences which will ultimately lead to another split. That is exactly how there are already 100 or so different LDS religious groups.
 
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by PuriChristos (PM , CC ) on Friday September 15, 2006 @ 8:04 AM


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   
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